Molly Holly and Lisa Marie Varon (WWE’s Victoria) were on Ring the Belle to run down their top five moments in WWE. The video looked at their infamous WrestleMania hair match, the first-ever women’s Steel Cage and Royal Rumble match, and leading the division full of rookie Divas.
Stealing Widow’s Peak from Roderick Strong:
Molly: I used to watch indie tapes to steal moves from people. Sorry! So, I stole [Widow’s Peak] from Roderick Strong, whom I used to wrestle with in the back yard of a trailer park in Florida. He was 14 and I was 18. He had a really cool move. Victoria was looking for a new finisher, and I showed it to her. When I showed it to her, in the ring was Vince McMahon. He saw her practice it on me, and Vince McMahon went “Oh!” And I thought if we can get Vince to react that way we know it’s a good one.
Wrestling inexperienced rookie Divas:
Lisa: I think our forte was working with the rookies and making them look good; better than they are. We would sacrifice our forms and everything like that just for them to get the big pop and boo us.
Pitching to Vince McMahon that she wants to bleed during the first ever Women’s steel cage match:
Lisa: One day I came to TV, and they were like you have a cage match. And I went “are you kidding me?” We gig our forehead to bleed sometime, and I wanted to gig [during the match]. I would never do it now, but at the time I thought we were so hardcore and we can do whatever the guys do. I went to Vince to ask him and he goes, “thank you Victoria for wanting to do it, but no one wants to see a Diva bleed.” I did ask Lita to throw me as hard as you can against the cage so I can get color naturally. I didn’t know how to do it, and I got a big knot.
Thoughts on hardcore stipulation matches that the current roster of women compete in:
Lisa: It’s scary to watch. It’s very unpredictable with ladders and tables. It’s scary! I’m older and smarter, and I don’t want to get seriously hurt.
Molly: I wanted to do things well but I also didn’t want to get hurt. I have zero injuries from the pro wrestling business. I feel great every day, and I feel like it’s because I didn’t really push to do more high-risk stuff.
Pitching the hair match to WWE creatives for WrestleMania:
Molly: I was a champion, and the writers told me that there was only room for one women’s match at WrestleMania. They were going to do a pillow fight or a mud match. I was really devastated and thought I gotta come up with something that makes them change their minds. So I put a bald cap on and had my photo taken.
I made a booklet with a bunch of different storylines showing my head getting shaved. I presented it to Stephanie McMahon and some of the writers and said: “I’m willing to shave my head, can I please be on WrestleMania?” Sure enough, they came back to me couple days later and said “all right, we’ll let you get your head shaved at WrestleMania.”
Molly had an interesting insight into reuniting with her old coworkers at Royal Rumble.
Molly: Anytime I get to see someone I used to work with, of course, you’ve got these–I hate to say it like–trauma bonds. We’ve gone through this like extreme situation together and so for life, you’re like molded as a friendship
Discussing her potential WWE return, Lisa mentioned:
Lisa: It is not my decision. They have to call and invite you. I still do the indies and a lot of signings at Comic Cons. A lot of people think I have a choice. The company has to decide. It’s out of our hands.
Lisa on her reason for wearing a heavy sumo wrestler outfit for one of the Halloween Diva Battle Royal matches:
Lisa: I don’t mind making an arse out of myself. And I thought that the sumo outfit weighs a ton, and I’m not gonna be eliminated! They are not going to be able to lift me out, and evidently, it took two girls.